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23 September 2006 @ 12:37 pm
Malcolm X and sex workers rights  
Spike Lee's Malcolm X is sofuckinggood. I wish that when people pick a cause and kick ass at it and are really progressive that they wouldn't do it at others expense cause that's just damn hypocrisy *cough* *misogynists* BUT despite that, what a charismatic leader! I wish we had damngoodpublic speakers nowadays that could really rile up the young folks. I wish that person could be me. Speaking of kick ass stuff by and for young folks, the documentary "Live Nude Girls Unite" about sex workers rights and labor union organizing is really inspirational and my favorite line is when the stripper who made the documentary says something to the effect of "I love stripping, I have never worked with so many college educated women. Particularly feminist studies and philosophy...It's like they figured out how to get back at the patriarchy...take their money" HA HA that is awesome. Men should have to pay to look at women.
Current Mood: sicksick
Bethchibibluebird on September 23rd, 2006 07:13 pm (UTC)
on the other hand it kind of irks me that sex workers who do it by choice (who also tend to be the most well-off among them: educated, not underage, not drug-addicted, not pimped etc.) get an inordinant amount of attention. most sex workers aren't there by anything that can reasonably be called free choice, and that majority is underrepresented.

And the idea that men can buy women and in fact are entitled to? seems pretty patriarchal to me.
drink juice & smash the statesweet_dichotomy on September 24th, 2006 04:15 pm (UTC)
agreed that the college educated sex workers are the minority, and those with the equipment and time and resources to make documentaries should be pointing their cameras at wimmin who are in situations where their voices aren't heard.

however. I do not believe she was saying men are entitled to "buy" wimmin. I interpreted it as, men are going to oggle wimmin no matter what, why not make them pay? there are very few ways to immediately begin to equalize the power dynamic between men and wimmin in the US in the current patriarchal system, so while turning free objectification into paid objectification is a little reactionary and not neccessarily a long term fix, I don't think it, in itself, is patriarchal. of course this only applies to wimmin who get to make the choice themselves, and are not forced into the act through economic or social cirucmstances... but then that's the segment of society (wimmin in a position to make their own choice regarding sex work) the whole post was focused on anyway.

vixenish_red: handvixenish_red on September 24th, 2006 09:58 pm (UTC)
i agree
I totally agree with you that most sex workers are exploited by a patriarchal system. I was only talking about the minority of sex workers who actually do chose it as a reclaimation of their sexual power. I just like the quote about sticking it to the patriarchy by taking their money. Also I don't think that sex workers should be looked down on, called whores, sluts, b*tches etc. for their "choice" to sell sexuality. And I think those who really do chose it as a reclaimation are often the targets of some members of the feminist community who see them as buying into the patriarchy which I don't think is quite right. Lets turn to the men who buy it and put some responsibility on them. I do think they (the men) are sleezy and gross but I don't think the women are wrong for taking their money.
Bethchibibluebird on September 24th, 2006 11:49 pm (UTC)
Re: i agree
oh, definitely, they shouldn't be called immoral or anti-feminist or any such thing. That's silly.

But I don't see how being a stripper demonstrates "sexual power". Do strippers exert power over their customers? No. I really don't see how being gawked at, frequently abused, and generally exploited gives one power. Call it a valid job choice, sure, but don't call it empowering.
Bethchibibluebird on September 24th, 2006 11:57 pm (UTC)
Re: i agree
hey, you have multiple personalities!:)

this might interest you. (I don't know the lj-er who posted it.)
Bethchibibluebird on September 25th, 2006 12:01 am (UTC)
Re: i agree
actually, n/m that. (i thought she listed a few journals, but in fact they're all contests)

http://www.duotrope.com/ is good, but you've probably seen it.